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« on: March 05, 2006, 04:40:26 AM »

When I was surfing Wikipedia for Prometheanism, I found that all the results led to organizations, myths, and ideas that had nothing to do with Prometheanism per se. I think somebody has to put up a true article about it on Wikipedia. I'd be more than happy to do it. It might help attract more people to the main site, don't you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2006, 05:49:46 AM »

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When I was surfing Wikipedia for Prometheanism, I found that all the results led to organizations, myths, and ideas that had nothing to do with Prometheanism per se. I think somebody has to put up a true article about it on Wikipedia. I'd be more than happy to do it. It might help attract more people to the main site, don't you think?


That notion has occurred to me too, and I think it's a bright idea. Not just because it occurred to me too Wink , but because I think it really would help a lot with getting the right sort of attention. It's high time the terms Prometheanism, Promethean (n and adj), Promethean movement, etc. came to be known in our sense, rather than the other largely pointless (and largely obscure) uses.

If you want to know what stopped me from doing it: I personally have way to much to do, given that I'm not already a Wikipede or whatever they call the people who make and improve the articles. I'd have to learn how. And of course the article itself might be a bit of a challenge, because we would want it to be as representative and accurate as possible in summing up Prometheanism. Fair or not, a great article on a on Wikipedia reflects positively whereas a poor one reflects poorly — especially in this case since I'm confident that an accurate expression of Prometheanism is tantamount to a recommendation.

If you're willing to do the job though, I will gratefully extend any help I can elucidating the subject material to make the article's as good as possible. Fortunately I've already written a large amount in the way of summaries, FAQs and such. But if I can provide anything of help, I will.

Really Delta, what a great contribution that would be. And if anyone else in the know can supplement what you do, that would very much be in the spirit of wikipedia as I understand it. Subjectivist, maybe you could lend a hand as well? Darios too perhaps?
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2006, 11:15:43 PM »

Here it is. It's not complete yet, but I will keep working on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheanism_%28philosophy%29
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2006, 12:37:36 AM »

Really nice to see this getting started... if you want input post in this thread. And if anyone has input for Delta as the page progresses, put it here so it's in one place, would you? If necessary, we can make it a sticky thread.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2006, 11:38:37 AM »

Looks really good Delta. Great work.

One of the things we need to do to ensure that the article gets attention (and thus directs traffic to the sites, including this forum) is to make sure the article Delta has started is linked to elsewhere in Wikipedia.

Topic is now sticky as per Phoenix's suggestion.

Any objections to my adding links from the anarcho-cap, individualist (and related) entries on wikipedia?
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2006, 05:04:22 PM »

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Any objections to my adding links from the anarcho-cap, individualist (and related) entries on wikipedia?


None at all. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 08:27:23 PM »

Ok, I have something. I'm not really sure what Wikipedia's standards and format for this sort of thing are precisely but I'm pretty sure the article needs to acknowledge when it's quoting other material. For example — and I don't know how much of a place holder this is but, the Origins of Prometheanism part of the page is currently made of directly quoted or paraphased material from this page of the same name. Some other material currently in the draft as well. I'm assuming that would be against Wikipedia policy as far as both objectivity (neutral point of view) and not citing a source. I'd also appreciate citing the source page too when the material in the article comes from one, personally.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2006, 08:32:40 PM »

Also, probably dumb question, but how does it work as far as hooking up the article? Is it that once it's finished, you connect it to the Wiki database somehow? I'm asking this because I tried to get to it the easy way without finding the direct link above, by putting Prometheanism in the search box, and it said no article with that name exists. I don't know these sorts of things — I just recently became acquainted with the fact that each Wikipedia page can have an attached discussion page, so... I'm a bit of a newbie to the whole process.  Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2006, 08:56:45 PM »

Glad you noticed these. I searched for the article the easy way and came up with no results, but when I typed "Prometheanism (philosophy)" in the search bar, Wikipedia came up with that article. I tried to change the title of the article so it could get better search results, but Wikipedia wouldn't let me. The page is still viewable on Wikipedia whether it's finished or not.

If this makes it any easier, I also edited the "List of philosophies" page so it has a link to Prometheanism.

Perhaps I should add links to the relevant articles on Promethea after each part of this article?
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2006, 09:22:39 PM »

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Glad you noticed these. I searched for the article the easy way and came up with no results, but when I typed "Prometheanism (philosophy)" in the search bar, Wikipedia came up with that article. I tried to change the title of the article so it could get better search results, but Wikipedia wouldn't let me. The page is still viewable on Wikipedia whether it's finished or not.


I'm thinking there's got to be a way to create a redirect, or disambiguation page, or something called "Prometheanism", that will send people to the article.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2006, 09:25:23 PM »

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Perhaps I should add links to the relevant articles on Promethea after each part of this article?


Yeah, whether Promethea or Prometheanmovement.org. Making links will help draw attention. And making sources explicit is a good idea anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2006, 12:44:03 AM »

Yes!

I managed to make it more accessible. I just copied and pasted it to an empty article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheanism

You should be able to find it easily in the search bar. Just type "Prometheanism"
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2006, 03:29:13 AM »

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Yes!

I managed to make it more accessible. I just copied and pasted it to an empty article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheanism

You should be able to find it easily in the search bar. Just type "Prometheanism"


Great, Delta. The only thing is that the other page will still be there and will end up differing, so is there a way to replace it with a redirect to the new page?
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2006, 07:26:00 AM »

Well, there you go — I see that despite being in progress, the article under "Prometheanism", not so far the "Prometheanism (philosophy)" one, has been flagged for NPOV dispute.

There will always be trolls among Wikipedia dwellers, of course, and judging from the discussion page one showed up. But this one was able to take advantage of an opening — making the page more objectively-stated would undercut this loser.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2006, 05:23:02 PM »

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Why do people insist on inventing new ridiculous theories? I'd like to see some criticism of this thing, if it is even notable enough for a wikipedia article at all. KSchutte 06:19, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


LOL.

Yeah, I see what you mean. We have a long way to go indeed. A new quarter's started here at RIT, so I'll try to finish as much as I can as soon as possible.
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